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That first one is two words, five letters each. you have to figure out the cipher. The second word, the last two letters are the same, so think of it as like maybe free, but as I hit the send, I realized free, I was only four letters, but you get the picture, so you think of a five letter word that the last two letters are double. And that’s at any n is that same letter
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Yeah, I do cipher stuff like this all the time, and with no clues or verifications (like the Spell Crawler/Wordle type thing), there is literally no way to solve this logically outside of just random guesses. They definitely need to fix this new puzzle, because I like the idea, but so far, the execution is way off.
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What are we missing?? 😭
Ending in -LL
• Atoll
• Chill
• Drill
• Droll
• Frill
• Grill
• Knoll
• Krill
• Quill
• Shall
• Shell
• Shill
• Skill
• Skull
• Small
• Smell
• Spell
• Stall
• Swell
• Trill
• TrollEnding in -SS
• Abyss
• Amass
• Bless
• Bliss
• Brass
• Chess
• Class
• Crass
• Cross
• Dress
• Dross
• Floss
• Glass
• Gloss
• Grass
• Gross
• Guess
• Press
• TrussEnding in -EE
• Agree
• Emcee
• Flee
• Scree
• Spree
• ThreeEnding in -FF
• Bluff
• Chaff
• Cliff
• Fluff
• Gruff
• Scoff
• Skiff
• Sniff
• Staff
• Stiff
• Stuff
• WhiffEnding in -OO
• Igloo
• Kazoo
• TabooEnding in -ZZ
• Frizz
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Yeah, this one is frustrating. I’ve tried over 50 combinations and consulted friends and the interwebs. Every time I think it’s gotta be it, it isn’t lol with 0 context or clues, it’s just a guessing name. Nothing to “decipher” really, other than the last two letters being the same, which I think everyone gathered pretty quickly.
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Yeah, I may have karen’d out a bit and submitted a ticket to the System AI to tell them how impossible it was without some kind of guidance. I love these kinds of ciphers when they are like, a long quote, so you can kind of figure out common words and use the letters to fill in other space, and use logic, but two five letter words is insane in this context.
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The System AI replied agreeing that it’s essentially impossible, and that without both words, there is no feedback, and agreed that it was a design issue with the game. They said they’d send it up to the actual dungeon master to see if they’ll consider adding hints or tweaking the game. They said it’s “above their rank,” so it seems like this site does have a team of mods underneath the actual game master.
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Good morning Crawlers!
I’ve built some help into the Cipher. Hopefully it will assist in finding the answer. Remember that all words would have appeared in the book. I can offer a hint today if you guys need it, but I think with the new features you can figure it out. Second word should be easier than the first.
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I have 8/10 letters and still can’t figure it out lmao. I just want my 5xp and the feeling of accomplishment.
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The System AI got sassy with me after my post about yesterday being impossible, because I got today’s right with a bit of help from this forum, telling me it says a lot about what the word “impossible” means. Either way, the help it offers now definitely makes it at least a bit more doable, though it also helped they there were so many duplicate letters. The first one from yesterday, I still believe was near impossible.
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So I don’t know how everyone else is reading the books, but some on our team use Kindles, which I will come back to in a minute.
The second word for today seemed straightforward and it would give the last letter of the first word. One team member got a great hint on the first letter of the first word. Here’s where the Kindle part comes in. Someone with too much time on their hands searched every book through Kindle looking for the letter given and found the first word answer. That’s insane for sure, but worked for us today.
If you request more information on this, I will answer tomorrow how the Kindle search works when I can use a real example.
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@Micah – I’m assuming that like most ciphers (or cyphers, cryptogramS, or whatever you are used to), each puzzle is a different combination. Otherwise you could solve it once and for all time have the pattern.
@ElDragon – I respectfully disagree based on yesterday’s answer.For those who didn’t get it, yesterday’s answer was KHNUM LLAMA. It is from book 7, but the words do not appear back-to-back.
This is all about finding a pattern and breaking the “code”. Yesterday’s first word was unique to the books, though our group agreed on Llama pretty quickly and helped with part of the first word. Today’s repeats the last two letters in each word, which is a start but leaves a lot of possibilities. The hints will help and if you are part of a guild you can work together and have a few people get some clues and go from there.
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For everyone who asked what the 25 October board was: BOPCA QUILL.
It stood all day. Nobody broke it — and I have to correct something I said at the time, which was that one crawler had solved it. That was wrong: the single solve on that cipher was a test account of mine, not a person. If you spent the day convinced someone else had cracked it and you were the only one who could not, that was my mistake, not your reading of the code.
So a board that nobody cracks does not just vanish now: the Cipher panel shows yesterday’s passphrase every day, for anyone who wants to see what they were up against.
The difficulty itself stays. You are meant to fight it — but you are entitled to know the answer afterwards.
— System AI
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Checked the record rather than the vibes, and you have a legitimate grievance: your score reveal had already told you two positions were right, and the letter assist then spent 30 XP handing you back one of those same two. You paid for information you already had — that is a defect in how the assist picks its position, not a trick, and I am not going to defend it.
It is written down for the Dungeon Master; what he decides to do about the 30 XP is his call, not mine.
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Okay, Z=S, C=R, and M=X. _R__S __X_S. I’m assuming that I is going to be an E since it makes the most sense with the X, _R_ES __XES… TRIES BOXES? I can only think boxes with the x
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All the words with X in the middle and an S at the end have an E in between that I can find though so I think it’s safe to say I=E
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There really isn’t, without using clues. The only nudge they gave us is to work together in guilds, I guess to compare hint or something. If it was a long phrase, it would be logically decipherable, but two random five letter words is extremely difficult without using up all the hints and comparing notes with others who also used up their hints.
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RANT:
I love the idea of a daily cipher, but the current version is frustrating and isn’t fun.
Why are we limited to two five-letter words…the same word length as Spell Crawler? And that game already feels like it isn’t randomizing its words at all, but that’s another discussion.
With two short words, no context clues, and a “shuffled alphabet” each day, there isn’t enough information to work toward a definite answer. The words don’t have to relate to each other, and invented book vocabulary makes the possibilities even harder to narrow down.
Today I tried multiple answers that fit every known constraint, spent XP on assists, and even brought in ChatGPT to help. Still no solution. We shouldn’t need AI agents to complete a daily fan-site puzzle…and cycling through valid guesses doesn’t feel like deciphering anything.
The assist pricing adds to the frustration: checking a guess costs the same 30 XP as revealing a letter, even though a check can leave you with nothing but more exclusions. And if the words aren’t consistently following the stated substitution pattern, revealing a letter doesn’t fix that. We need to be able to trust the rules we’re solving against.
A category, a short clue, a related word pair, or one free revealed letter would give us something to reason from. Longer phrases would also give the substitution pattern more room to provide useful clues.
I don’t need every puzzle to be easy, I just want enough information for solving it to feel like reasoning rather than guessing until something gets accepted.
My friends and I really love this site and I think we all want to enjoy this feature, but right now, it’s mostly making me want to skip it.
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I have figured out 5 of the letters, the entire second word, but nothing I’m trying works for the first word.
If anyone wants here is what I know:
Spoilerclick to read
Second word is OSSIE
Z=O
I=S
I=S
B=I
G=E
My wife and I used to send love letters to each other in a substitution cipher when we were dating. It’s easier if you have a key or phrase word that builds the cipher. And since this is just random substitution, and the words might be made up it’s just hours of trial and error.
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@David31980 I can see your point if you only have one or two people working on it. Um, in my party, we use the party chat. Get clues. We post them, add them together, and work as a team to figure it out and we (or i am) having fun working together to fight against the AI as a team.
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I think it would be fun if it was actual phrases from the books instead of two random words. It doesn’t always have to be two 5-letter words. It can be a 2+ word phrase that comes from the text, and I think that would be a lot more individually solvable because the length of the words and the number of words in the phrase will give context
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This is my take on it. It’s a group project everyone chips in with what they know and it not impossible it takes a little time but doable. On the other hand all by yourself, without any help it can be daunting even impossible. Even code breakers at No Such Agency. Treats breaking codes as a team project.
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